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@ Luxas
2025-06-10 02:06:22
You have no idea about who I am or the other freedom tools I have built that do not include Cloudflare. Please do not assume or create whataboutisms.
Do you understand the technical side of why most do not like Cloudflare? It is not at all due to past reasons, but hypotheticals. Cloudflare acts as a man-in-the-middle and decrypts in-transit traffic, but not pre-encrypted payloads outside of the TLS connection, which is how they're able to inspect the traffic and apply various ingress rulesets from their WAF. In some cases, such as a site with a password login, this would make a person's password visible in plaintext to Cloudflare. This is a viable reason to dislike Cloudflare, I agree, and why I would never use Cloudflare on a site that handles PII.
But with the usage of Cloudflare for a Nostr relay, it presents none of the MitM vector. Not even with Nip-44 DMs as they're encrypted client-side with a person's privkey prior to being transmitted through Cloudflare's network. The worst that Cloudflare would have is connection data, but most people concerned about privacy will be using a VPN/Tor anyway.
What I will give you, that you haven't even mentioned yet but is another reason some people dislike Cloudflare, is the possibility for censorship and that Cloudflare is a centralized service. Again, hypotheticals. So, someone better not use another relay software with a VPS from a AWS, Hetzner, [enter in endless list of cloud hosting companies], etc!
Nosflare was built with the intention of building a relay that had a low barrier to entry and could cost-effectively scale both vertically and horizontally and absorb large amounts of connected clients. If that's not what you're wanting, then cool. That's fine with me if this wasn't built for you and that's the beautiful thing about Nostr. You aren't vendor locked and there are many other available relay options out there that allows you to use on a server at your home.